the dickies double-front duck carpenter pants. the poor working woman's alternative to carhartts, with much the same failings, but at half the price! $35 for your choice of 3 colors, and no inseam options. 6/10 the deets: ok. so they're pants. ostensibly, they're not hateful; they have functional pockets, a real hammer loop, a tool loop, multiple side pockets, and doublefront knees for when you have 45 minutes to try and cram a kneepad in there. and they make my ass look pretty ok. but those are the extent of the plusses. upon initial donning of the pants, one leg at a time mind you, the front is somehow too tight while the back gaps out away from the body. throughout the day, the crotch sags and bags in only the way duck pants can, but ... they function as pants. my standards get lower day by day.